Can Body Positive & Fitness Enthusiasts Find Middle Ground?

In an effort to not have challenging conversations in this day and age It’s like when you do you like whatever’s best for you. But then what if best for you is actually harmful to yourself and/or others My Health is a top priority in my life You never know how bad you feel Until you start feeling better than you’ve ever felt in your life and I’ve been on both ends of the spectrum and damn it’s very different to now being like Really focused on the mind body and soul like really having all parts just as equal as the other For me, I am a cancer survivor And so my entire life now is about making sure that I have a life, you know to continue So yeah I was diagnosed with lymphedema at age 3 which affects the circulation For me through my legs and feet. So health for me has always been at the top of my mind because if I don’t take care of my body like my I could have an amputated foot or leg So it’s nothing that I play around with all of my family almost has suffer from diabetes, heart disease and stuff like that So that’s why I’m extra conscious about my health because I don’t want to come down with any of those diseases I have a regular workout routine I’ve been working out consistently since I was 19 years old I used to work out two hours a day, but then I realized that’s way too long so now my workout session that would wait for about 45 minutes and then The rest is stretching and cardio and I spent a lot of time stretching because it allows me to get in the zone Kind of like a meditation of sorts It’s all mental, like, I go to the gym or workout or do something kind for my body in forms of movement every day Because it keeps me sane. Like if I don’t go there then I feel like something’s missing. And I get a little bit depressed Singing all by myself back there. I was going to the gym regularly every day, for like, six months and then my life shifted I lost my father a lot of things happened in my life that umm threw off my whole routine and so the point when when I was going to the gym so regularly I felt like my brain felt happier like I’ve gotten that feeling back in other ways I have no desire in me to change my body in any way. I like my buckets a little bigger. No, no, not at all See this is where we’re gonna get because I will tell you not every big person wants to be small I am conscious about what I eat My mom had me in Weight Watchers in junior high. Like so my relationship with food and what I’m putting into my body has been like completely- can we curse? Fucked up like since the very beginning. I’ve had a severe sugar addiction since I was a kid and like the binge eating like it makes you feel like everything- I can’t have this. This is an enemy. So when I see it, like you have it I’m like, oh, I want to eat it all. Every day, I wake up. I have a green smoothie I’m always very conscious of like what I’m putting into which I think is- I’m going to say the controversial statement. I think is something that people would never think is true based off the size of my body There’s so much studies that are coming out like in terms like your microbiome, like the microbiome that you have like you can literally eat green smoothies and eat like everything you’re supposed to be eating, and not lose the weight because we have an imbalance in your microbiome and like and then people who are thin, they’re just really thin but they eat McDonald’s every day But they don’t realize is how much they’re clogging their arteries and they die of heart attacks more than quote-unquote big people. I received negative feedback about my body growing up I would have people, like some family members be like “Oh, you look a little heavier than you did last year” and then other family members that were a lot more direct like “When are you going to lose the weight?” and it’s been like that I would say my whole life and then we got to a point where I was getting compared to my little sister who’s like beautiful and thin and it’s like- it is so hard not to compare yourself to other people It is so hard to have a healthy relationship with food and with fitness and just with other people and it became so difficult to break out of that and to really love who I am inside. My stepmom would take, like, if I had a wrapper of chips like in my room like she would put it on top of like, my dresser and say like “I’m not the reason why you’re fat, this is” like it was all very like but it was super crazy psychological because I was like, we’ve never even discussed this before I’m from Texas. We all eat soul food. So everybody was eating the same shit food So with my mom 250 pounds, my brother 350 pounds But I saw that I was eating the exact same foods and I didn’t even know until I got around Los Angeles, health conscious people. I’m like “What? What you mean to tell me you don’t have freaking bacon cheeseburger every single day?” I didn’t know So when you got to like- what triggered it in your head that said “Oh this to me is the right way for me to look now?” I wanted to be a model the idea that you wanted to become a model and the only idea of model to you, meant being thin or fit or whatever that beat means, all I saw because it wasn’t as popular like plus-size wasn’t popular back then We’re not, it’s 18 years old It’s definitely not popular But it’s still it’s still opened up way more than The conversation I will say is much more broad now I feel like we’re we’re able to talk about these things a lot easier now than we were before but What the actual way that the industry treats plus-sized models is totally different This question makes me very passionate. This is really big for me because I’ve been like, come forth, from other body-positive influencers But I feel like that messages as other people put out are very dangerous to a young woman who thinks that it’s okay I don’t care what size you are It’s not okay to sit and eat cheeseburgers and ice cream all day, like that has nothing do with your size I think there’s a difference between acceptance and agreement So like you can accept your body and be in disagreement with the health situation that you have, right? We hear fit experts always saying “Be skinny, lose weight!” That’s the healthy way to do it But we never say- at least we don’t say “be fat because it’s better for your heart” or “it’s better for your soul” It’s better for your you I’m gonna say even what you just said like body acceptance versus body agreement like to you you might see one of us and be like Oh, they love their- accept their bodies, but I’m sure they don’t agree with what it looks like I mean, I wouldn’t know unless I talked with someone but like whatever the numbers like whatever like is coming up in terms of like, you know, when you go to the doctor, like at the end of the day But even as fit people, when you see a person who is overweight or fat or obese, however you whatever term you want to use What’s the first thing happens in your head? Do you think like “Oh, like it’s great that they accept themselves, but they could use to lose weight” or what is your first thought? My very first thought; no one’s like born that way. So you you like there’s habits and things that you observe But you actually can be born with that . We could eat the exact same thing and be 2 different people Parenting and stuff like that. I didn’t really know what to expect today I didn’t know how the body positive individuals were gonna come across I didn’t know if they were for a healthy lifestyle or not But I think it’s beautiful that you guys acknowledge how important it is to keep yourself healthy Do I feel like there are people in the body positive community that say “Well, I’m just happy being fat and I’m just gonna lay down and just do that.” Yeah, absolutely Absolutely. I Fat pride, hashtag fat pride is like was something that was going on. It’s just funny big buzzword everyone You said something at some point that body positivity and like health and stuff is different. Like is that what everybody? Thanks The actual body positive community was created to give a platform to bodies that have been marginalized in our society. That’s what it was actually created for, big body, big disabilities What are you different races and I want to scream because I’m like “actually this is not meant for you this is meant for bodies who who don’t have a voice.” The fitness community is the reason why the body positive community exists and I think that as a community, it’s important for you guys to be a little bit more inclusive. People come up to me I think we really did find a middle ground But we did I think we all realize it. It’s like not it’s not this line. That’s Riding it you go out Hey guys. Jason from Jubilee here. We hope you enjoyed another episode of Middle Ground Honestly, this is one of our favorite series to make and we hope you enjoyed too Let us know in the comments below what you think about this issue and if you agree or disagree with anyone? 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  • Just because you're 'pro-fitness' doesn't mean you aren't body positive too.

  • Like Chad Ocho Cinco says, he eats McDonalds every day bc he works out to burn it off. Simple science

  • This was awfully done. It needs to be revisited.

  • You don’t have to be small to be fit

  • "People come up to me,," (applause)

  • when I read the title of this
    video, I was kind of confused why should BP exlcude fitness-enthuasim ?
    and that is still my point.
    but very interesting video, I enjoyed listening to 'both' sides, even though I would have loved the bold guy to get his last point across

    so yeah that is what I wanted to say!

    a healthy mind in a healthy body
    take care of yourself!

  • 0:40 LMFAO ok

  • I relate to the girl in the yellow top cuz i also have a smaller sibling that is also thin and all of my fam compare me to him, i mean what do you expect from a mexican fam. lol

  • Please redo this one and let the sides actually speak when things get heated

  • I am overweight and I am telling you – these people are kidding themselves. Being overweight is not healthy or positive. We just feed ourselves this information to feel better about our choices.

  • Being body positive for me is taking care of my health and mental health you are the reflection of how you feel about yourself

  • But why does body positivity in this video = overweight

  • Her Tots were hanging looow. ?

  • In my opinion exercise is self care and health

  • woah i wish this was longer

  • Why are the body positive people on the bigger side , why can’t slim or skinny people be body positive ? They have issues too

  • I find it extremely ironic that all the body positive people stepped forward in the first question. If your health was a top priority, then you wouldn’t whine all day on social media about people saying you are unhealthy, and you’d actually go to a gym and lose weight.

  • Body positive group points everything to their past. Fit group points to the future for solutions.

  • Where is MeMe Roth when you need her to drop some unapologetic facts

  • Kind of along the same lines but could you do pro-plus size model and anti plus sized model?

  • omg the guy in the suit……..

  • I'm eating marmalade balls

  • in my opinion, body positivity is good as long as it is not a choice to look/be better. if you are overweight because of health issues, if you are missing a body part from a traumatic event or cancer, it is good to overcome the insecurities, but if you are just too lazy to eat healthy or do 10 minutes of exercise daily, i find that a bad influence

  • Did that girl really just say body positivity is not meant for fit people? ?‍♀️?

  • Can we have ghost believers and scientists please?

  • First of all this not long enough we need the whole unedited interview and we're not hearing enough from the fitness side

  • Some people just jelly lol and salty

  • Why do they always cut off people talking like in all your videos

  • The bald guy looks like loltyler1

  • "Oh lets not even start that" So why is this a thing? This is for discussion and people from both sides of the argument will obviously disagree with eachother, but shutting them down will get you nowhere in understanding what the other person has to say.

  • I can't help but feel some of the body positive group is lying about keeping healthy…

  • Redo this with more time please

  • Body positivity lmao I’m so proud of this cheeto body

  • Kierras pants are adorable! anyone know where to get them or ones similar?

  • I’m sorry but talking about health with someone who is 17+ stone is like talking to a brick wall

  • "Omg yes i exercise everyday and only think about my health and consious about my nutrition" literally weights 400 pounds. What?

  • That microbiome statement was just untrue. There’s no way you would eat in a caloric deficit and not lose weight. What is the imbalance doing, creating calories? Calories in vs calories out that’s it. Like why would you tell people they can’t lose weight because of that.

  • Being obese is unhealthy. If you are obese then you should lose weight. You cannot say people should be happy with how they are when they are obese ie when they are unhealthy. Thats madness.

  • Out of all the middle ground that I've watched , this one was the worst one.

  • Being over weight is being unhealthy.

  • Actually you can be born more so overweight in terms and skinny. Nor everyone born is the same. Even weight of a child is different when born. I was 9 pounds and people thought I turn out overweight but turned out average weight but cousin was 7 pounds and people thought he would be thin and is born bigger.

  • It's sad that society marginalizes people like this but honestly wtf. They look as if they put no effort to eat well, sleep well and exercise. This body positive community cannot be an excuse to be unhealthy. I understand that they are ok with their bodies but clearly their not the healthiest.

  • I really like that one of the women said; eating cheeseburger and ice cream isn't okay for anybody. I have always been thinner than average, and the amount of times people have said to me that it's okay for me to eat pizza, ice cream and pancakes is uncountable, because it's my body can manage it.
    I usually respond with, no it "harms" my body just as much as yours, but I choose to enjoy junkfood and desserts sometimes, because it taste good and so should you.

  • I wish they had somebody skinnier on the body positive side

  • The fitness coach with the name mc Donald says: and they eat (pause) mc Donald’s everyday.

  • I immediately knew which people were on which side hahahaha

  • I get being body positive, but please put on a decent top

  • Doesn't it seem strange that people that are "body positive" are obese 99% of the time?

  • The "body positive" people lied about almost everything they walked up for.

  • Those bitches really trying to fool us that they work out???? Ok.

  • Good lord her boobs are about to fall out

  • why would choose body positive that have disease that way off

  • Body shaming should not happen on either side. Skinny people are shamed, Plus size people can be shamed. Everyone should eat healthy and exercise, and fitness people are body positive.

  • YOOOOO!!!! The guy in the blue tank is JACKED.

  • What is body positive

  • Why don’t they just workout or eat healthier?

  • Easily the worst episode of this series on jubilee

  • I really feel like, the fitness people were really underrated.

  • You guys are too kind. Thank you to all of you who took the time to comment with such great positive energy. You guys are awesome! Please connect with me on Instagram @nomadpics
    I would Love to connect with all of you. ?

  • You can't force another person to workout but don't get mad if you get so big you get charged for 2 seats at the movie theater.

  • At 8:07 the cameraman peers across the room stealthily…

  • This was very much a, "walking on eggshells" for the fitness people. I felt like they were just in agreement with the other side, and didn't project their own views enough.

  • U don’t gotta put who is body positive?

  • Hey! Vin diesel had more to add! Lol jk

  • 0:00 thats how i feel about gamers t

  • The best way to lose weight is to not eat for about 15 or days or so. If you have to, eat 3 almonds on day 7 guaranteed results

  • Damn, that biceps.

  • That woman’s nasty meat sacks were really distracting

  • Meanwhile I'm sitting here eating dry cereal

  • 6:16 wtf

  • I'm not even commenting on the video but the ad that played before. A complete parental control app that alerts you on anything your child does, and then tells you how to parent the situation? That's not cool. You need to let your child make their own choices. Anywayss

  • Body positive people in this video – Health is my top priority. I exercise regularly. I eat healthy food.
    Also them – weighs 400 pounds

  • This was one of the nicest middle ground episode, they all have great points

  • Body positive = when you don't want to break a sweat everyday and have a disciplined diet but you get offended when people point out that you're overweight
    Plus the first thing out of their mouths is excuses
    I'm sorry, but there are countless examples of people with debilitating physical conditions and they still manage to excel in sports and training, these poor saps can't even tell themselves to put down the donuts if they weighed themselves once in a while. They want to change society's perceptions, but they are not willing to change themselves for the sake of health.

  • Guy in the blue shirt says he never wants to change his body. But every time he sits down he readjusts his shirt which screams insecurity. I know cause I’ve done it and have been there. :/

  • But being healthy and working out is very good for you!

  • *watching this and shoving food in my face. And I almost felt bad for a second about how much I’m eating, then I started eating again and I felt better*

    On an honest note: as someone who’s super petite, I grew up feeling bad about my body. I was made fun of as early as 5th grade. I had strangers tell me I looked anorexic because I was naturally built really small. It made me feel ugly. And to this day, I hate my petite body. It makes me feel like I’m built like a child rather than a women. It gets annoying to hear from people that I’m thin so I don’t know what it’s like to struggle with body image issues. And I remember in jr high getting fed up with being told that I needed to eat more. It was treated like some harmless thing. Like I shouldn’t be upset or bothered by the comments. It goes both ways though. Thin or big, tall or short. ANYONE can struggle with loving their bodies or be made to feel ugly.

  • Of course the body positive people are the over weight ones lol

  • I don’t know what middle ground that man thought he heard because what I say was them always cutting of the fitness people so that only their point was made

  • the bald guy is the one from the honda+army advertisement HAHA

  • I think that the body positive movement was created whit al the good intention but once it arrived on the internet it progressively became really toxic. I know there are a lot of bp activists that promote an healty lifestyle and support EVERY kind of body but in my opinion there are so many people considering themselves body positive that totally miss the point of bp movement. Body positivity is not about promoting obesity, unhealthy lifestyles and excluding skinny people, it's about supporting each other, mental health and self acceptance. What people don't understand is that a lot of thin kids struggle with confidance too.

  • Thers Also A Mental Side To This.

  • Body positive=fat and lazy

  • The idea that plus size isn’t open or popular isn’t true at all. Literally walk into any target and you’ll see plus sized people on posters and ads.

  • 3:40 – THIS, THIS, THIS. Microbiome. I know so little about it so far, I've JUST started to research it, and I encourage everyone browsing the comments to do so too. You might get farther Googling for 'gut bacteria' I dunno. Just learn about it, please!

  • The bald guy and the girl with the yellow shirt both have the best voices and didn’t deserve to be cut off like they did. I can’t believe this video bc the producers and editing cut off so many peoples thoughts which is not how they normally do it and it’s really frustrating

  • This video was so annoying.. bc of the body positivist and how short the conversations were

  • I don’t see how body positives and athletes oppose. If you’re happy with ur body then you keep doing what you’re doing. If not go to the gym.

  • the big guy said he loved being big and wouldn't change it but stepped forward for the "i am conscious about what i eat" part ?if you're conscious abt that then there's probably something you don't like about your body

  • She literally has McDonald in name…

  • Wow body positive people aren’t fit. I’m so suprised

  • Can y’all show us the long version of the video?


  • I wish someone would look at me the way the dude without sleeves looks at everybody

  • first 9 sec of the video already firing on all cylinders

  • the lady in the pink is literally gate keeping the body positive community

  • Just another video where obese people talk about how they're healthy.

  • So from what I learned from this video is that body positive activists are liars.

  • Omg, I thought that big lady was only wearing a BRA ? at first.. geez I was thinking “I wish I was that comfortable with my body” ???

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