Let the environment guide our development | Johan Rockstrom

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    Well then i must have misinterpreted your comment. But you sounded like a wise guy talking down on me and i think you underestimate most of the people here!

  • His initial Malthusian drivel almost caused me to thumb down and ignore the rest. Fortunately he pulled it out by talking about many great and simple innovations that prove that there is more than enough for as far as we can see into the future. Quit screaming the sky is falling and just do the things that produce more and everything will be great. Hooray for abundance.

  • @shunnehling i agree. But i think there is still hope if people decide that they want change. And demand it.

  • @mr3dguy Meh. There are other sources of energy. I'm assuming you do not know of the name "Nikola Tesla", and even less exotic, there are breakthroughs being made in solar energy, like a "Paint" that can transmit solar energy. Thermo electrics, hydroelectrics, research into superconductivity. Its there, its just supressed, like i said before. I just keep repeating myself.

  • @deinandra The ocean is polluted because of reliance on fossil fuels. There are other energy sources but like mr 3dguy claims, they are "Dangerous" but only in the hands of the people right? When in the possession of the Industrial military complex they are absolutely harmless right?

  • @Thonero The earth will never become overpopulated in direct result of our level of technology. Get it? The only time the planet will face what you call "overpopulation" (But what i call "understimulation.") is when the technologies are supressed. Get it?

  • @mr3dguy "Dangerous" but only in the hands of the people right? When in the possession of the Industrial military complex they are absolutely harmless right?

  • @ijjesus I know how communism works. It doesn't. The idea that all humans are going to start a Utopian and purely egalitarian society is extremely naieve and extremely childish. People are greedy. This isn't changing.

  • @WyldOrbit Try "not ready yet, but eventually promising". We need better battery technology if we're going to use technologies, but it's exciting to think that we might be very near having affordable, workable replacements for fossil fuels.

  • We should be careful about our impact on the planet but I think we naturally are because our well being is at stake.

  • @majinspy
    no you dont know how communism works because communism never worked, communism never existed.
    And regardless of that, equal money IS NOT communism.
    By the way: you are the greedy one who is not willing to give everyone a dignified life. We will sort you out….

  • @ijjesus
    I agree that communism has not existed as it was originally intended.
    After reading more and more about these topics, I have come to realize (in my humble opinion of course) that anarcho-communism or anarcho-sindicalism might be the "flexible" all-encompassing system that will do the job to free the world economy. People join voluntary (non-profit) associations all the time and they work.

  • @majinspy
    There you go — you just revealed yourself as the scumbag in this world that is not valuying all life EQUALY. If you were born in a shit currupt contry I would like to know what you would have to say… You are living the american DREAM and I am in the delusional world…lolol funny isnt it.
    You will be forced to give it away because that is what the masses will vote for. You are a minority — enjoy your next 20 years…

  • @majinspy I'm actually a liberal and I'm all for minorities getting what is necessary. But the elimination of the rich will be quickly followed by the elimination of the poor. If you kill off all the people who produce, who will produce what you want to redistribute? There has to be a balance.

    You are the one threatening violence, and accuse me of being a scumbag.

  • This is the story the GW lobby has been trying to mess up. We need locally sustainable economy in stead of bankers trying to centralize everything far away.

  • @majinspy You are confusing rich and intelligent. Our smart people are currently enslaved in order to create a bigger more profitable mess. so much as try to change any part of their game and you will be purged.

    This is why there is no more innovation in fascist amerika. For example, the rest of the world is building windmills but the projects in the US had to wait for a license for 10 years while being screamed at by unproductive bully monopolists and petrowarmongers

  • @koren1124 If you tell people things they already know they will say you are smart. Johan Rockstrom scored a lot of points 😀

  • @Darc1228

    China is not a 3rd world country. They are even helping some african nations with their developement, for resorces of course. I am talking about poor african countries, some south american countries and most of the middle east. (The -stan countires) If the developed part of the world would actually build infrastructure and facilities like plants, schools and hospitals where it is needed, poor countries would be able to help themselfes. Donating money won't get them far…

  • I don't see what he said new here that we haven't heard 100 times.

  • this guy sounds like arnie

  • I wish TED would post more HD movies.

  • @28kb
    I think he is from Sweden, his mother tongue is Swedish which is Germanic language as well as Arnie's German.

  • The thing that annoys me about these environment talks is that they talk forever about things that we have all heard that now have a lessened effected. But what I want to know the most is exactly what I can do to help the planet. And I don't mean, "Switch to CFLs."

  • @s0m3w0n2
    Because it not only looks better, it's actually more comfortable to watch, especially on my high-res screen. Also not like it's a big effort to do it.
    I don't even own or watch TV/blu-ray, so i'm not a mediateinment junkie anyway.

  • Ever notice that most Environment talking heads have more than the US 1.86 average kids per household?


    Al Gore Has 4. How many greenhouse gases are these little bastards spewing each day?

  • Make less kids!!!

  • @mmsayre
    Have a look: The sun will shine for a long long time, therefore we will e able to produce food for as long as the sun shines. The earthly cyles – water and wind – arent called "cycles" by chance… That which makes up your physical body was once dust – therefore you dont have to worry about scarcity.
    Obviously we cannot sustain everyone at the current level of america — the earth just can't handle such a DREAM lolol…
    The basics will be meet – we'll make sure of it.

  • @HarveyMushman85
    China claims to be a developing country, which is reasonable. They do do quite a bit for other countries but the amount of cock up they're capable of at home is just remarkable.
    So the argument goes both ways depends on how you look at it.

  • @timg455 That's because apparently repeating it a 100 times isn't enough.

  • @sondano He's talking impact here, not numbers.

  • @sondano

    thats maybe the point, we are really minor- but destroying major.

  • @NickBlackDIN u dont have to bro…..one male and one female can give birth 2 one child…this means….6 billion male and female population=3 billion children…after parents dies …we have 3 billion people…it is that simple bro….thumb ups if u think so….

  • @aerobique oviusly i care…thats why i am commenting and wasting 10 seceond due….u think this comment is useless then u r stupid…..read it again and u will find some productive idea…..population controll is the best thigs to stop this….and u think this is not productive…then i dont have anything to say to u…u r still child and u will not get it….

  • @ppnnlearning lol I was joking, but you make a very well stated point, you get a thumbs up from me =D

  • This is depressing…If only the world was not dominated by irrationality.

  • @sondano Bacteria aren't changing or influencing the planet they're a stable factor while humanity is not. You're confusing impact with importance.

  • @ppnnlearning
    population control is the elites dogma, they hate decentralized energy and decentralization in general. Take the NON – RADIOACTIVE NUCLEAR REACTOR THAT USES a "free" fuel and is abundant in our planet, about 600 years worth at present consumption of energy. Each cubic meter of average rock contains 10-12gram Thorium and 200grams EQUALS LIFETIME USE OF ELECTRICITY. It's self regulating, impossible to explode, worked everyday from 1964-69. The monopoly men won't let us have it.

  • The THORIUM FLOURIDE REACTOR will be kept from us as it was from our parents, until the rich have their planned POPULATION REDUCTION. Only after that will they allow their suppressed technology to be available. Doing so today would similar to the industrial revolution explode our population and quality of life in an energy revolution. Making the monopoly men less powerful with each new free & wealthy family. The size of a dishwasher or two these could power my familys flights to mine space 😉

  • The sandy beaches of india have tested over 50% THORIUM!! Ready to be scooped up. It's not just the average rock of earth that contains THORIUM. It's on all the planets and their moons. The moon dust is filled with THORIUM, TRITIUM etc.. all futuristic fuels.. We have to do this, or else the ecology will collapse, oil will make agriculture insufficient, transport too expensive. Murdering the billions that survive on less than 5 dollars a day &controlling the terrified rest in an Orwellian world

  • @dkiddroxyahoocom
    skepticalscience (dot) com (slash) Climategate-CRU-emails-hacked (dot) htm
    "climate-gate" didn't "expose" anything, other than the media's blatant misunderstanding of the terminology used in the e-mails.

    Please, look this up for yourself. Scientists (and weather stations, for that matter) don't lie. If they did, we'd still live in the medieval age!

  • Very very important talk! It's so many variables people dont think of when it comes to system changes. If we continue like we do, endlessly consuming and creating masses of waste without thinking about stability, sustainablity and efficency: the ecosystems resilience will shut down completely.

    Hence one of the many reasons my support the Venus project and the zeitgeist movement.

  • This week in Stockholm, Johan Rockström and his eco-fascist accomplices tried to ram through a new policy of global governance toward mass genocide. What failed in Copenhagen would now be done behind locked doors, without any open debate.

    Luckily, this fraud was exposed by the LaRouche movement's political organizers, who intervened outside the event.

    See the participants exposed in this video:

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  • @ppnnlearning except that not every one of those 6 billion people are able or willing to have children

  • Ok fair point. But then – what about twins, religious views on contraception, un-planned pregnancies etc. ? I'm afraid your nice idea is just a bit too simple. Unfortunately, if the human race's population is cut in half, it'll most likely be due to climate change/ sea level rise.

  • I'm really afraid for the loss of biodiversity. Think about it, it went from 0-60 (so to speak) faster than any other problem.

  • Let's make a plan, to have technical decisions, not doing propaganda.

  • And the thing about ecosystem is they are dynamic. You pull out the wrong blocks and the whole thing can fall down. Ecosystems involve everything interconnected, it's kinda like janga I guess haha.

  • What a wonderful speech. No hyperbole, no hard-sell, what more do you want than pictures of the horrendous changes that are happening? How much more motivation than we need to act now? The "leave things alone and they will be fine" mentality hasn't worked for 20+ years. Why do people think it would work now? I hope people like Johan will continue to bring innovations to people everywhere!

  • Agreed great talk

  • The answer of course is education. Stats show that educated families have less children.

  • If Garbage is Good for the Economy , does that mean the Economy is Bad for Ecology ??

  • very good

  • redundancy not optimisation!
    Coming from a place of abundance of effort, rather than scarcity of effort.

  • Makes me glad I chose permaculture and sustainable design as a career path!

  • All humans are irrational about these issues it's just our nature. we need to create systems around the way our brains work.

  • Why did you censor Graham Hancock? Why didn't you know that wouldn't work?

  • Classic mis-approach. The planet isnt going anywhere…We Are!!!
    Watch George Carlin watch?v=NL8HP1WzbDk

  • what an idiot shoot him

  • This isn't about environment vs humans…it is about co-existence.

  • Architecture.

  • Very well said, Johan!

  • Amazing and inspiring talk! Very funny and contradictory advertisement at the end, though 😉

  • Thank you!

  • The rich people and the politicians wont allow it. The dollar is oil and war.

  • Everybody should know the fact,specially younger generation.

  • Saving environment, planet Earth and us mankind requires measurements taken on governmental level, question is how to push the government to start doing something on the matter.

  • This is incredible. Gave me chills. People need to know about this.

  • I'm too distracted by his looks. He's sexy.

  • Technology only works when we use it efficiently. What form of energy gives the maximum return on investment when materials and energy to produce that technology is considered? Some that are considered "Green" might be the same sort of green trade off as that found between the plastic and paper bags. Back in the day paper bags were a nasty thing and we went plastic to save the forests, It turns out plastic has a worse impact than paper.

    We need to work the numbers to help our emotion do the correct thing.

  • When he falls 5:47 XDDDDDD

    does anyone know if that was purposeful or truly accidental? He acted as if nothing happened

  • we're gonna make big wall around environment. it's gonna be huge i am telling you this , it's gonna be huge and we are gonna make earth pay for it. i guarantee you that.

  • A bit awkward when he describes the Great Barrier Reef as a success story…

  • Environment has a big impact on the humans. We are destroying our ecosystem gradually. If we do not stop now, we will have to pay the debts with our lives.

  • Great courses on this subject






  • Ted what is boundries

  • We are sabotaging the stability and resilience of our planet, the countdown has begun …

  • My AP Enviornmental Science peeps, where u at???

  • Uncontrolled population growth in developing third world countries will be a much larger problem than anything that can be mitigated by rich white guilt ridden idiots.

  • Estoy pensando que ponen los títulos en español, para que le demos click a los videos más prontamente. Me gusta, aunque siempre habro uno con la intención de que aparezca uno hablado realmente en español. Sé que los hay, pero no tratan este tipo de temas.

  • Gloss over of the non-unity state structure & the fact it's a club and "we" are not in it, yadda yadda "we" can do this.


  • video watched

  • Seven years after this publication, the curve (5:07) is still not bent!

  • S I G N I F I C A N C E

  • Wow, I'm so glad I knew this in 2010.. that's.. Wait, it's 2018!… all we need to do now is make that time machine.

  • We need to remind people of these issues in 2018. There is a long way to go and President Trump is making it worse.

  • Subtítulos del video

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  • The Solution on a daily human action basis is to adopt a plant based diet. Cowspiracy.com

  • Stop supporting WWF! They have CAUSED most of the problems to the environment since 1960's. Sounds Ridiculous, right? Climate Change and the release of CO2 has been caused by deforestation. Deforestation also occurs because fo mining, and mining poisons people. Mining also brings in diseases, which kills the local indigenous population.
    Since the beginning of its work the WWF has received much appreciation from all governments on earth. It even acts in many nations as a de facto ministry for the environment. For good reasons:

    1. WWF is able to polish up the governments' good environmental image.

    2. WWF helps to protect very small areas as nature reserves and therefore gives space for the indiscriminate destruction of huge remaining areas, by industry and small scale land grabbers. Their bluster about 'illegal' logging is merely a smoke screen to cover up the 95% of logging that is legal.

    3. WWF helps to develop remote places with large areas of intact nature and get control over it.

    4. As these remote areas are generally tribal lands of non-assimilated peoples WWF assists governments to get control over them and to assimilate them into the mainstream.

    5. WWF promotes a very profitable tourism industry.

    As a result of all this, the losers are savage peoples and – it may look paradoxical at first glance – wild nature in general due to the sacrifice of most of the land. As usual, the winner is the wealthy world.

    The oppression of savage tribal peoples done by nature conservationists has never been a focus of discussion. Results of nature conservation activities have always been spin doctored to imply that the damages done to the savages were properly redressed. Shanty towns and coca-cola are no replacement for a three million year old culture. The point here is that compensation is irrelevant anyway, since these people should not be forcibly removed in the first place. The argument about compensation is a red herring to divert attention from the genocide being conducted by NGOs who pretend to support human rights.

    In Zaire the Barhwa Pygmies were driven out of their ancestral land in order to establish the Kahuzi-Biega National Park. WWF has been deeply involved. The victims formerly lived, in dignity, in their traditional ways but are now exposed to alcoholism, prostitution, extreme poverty and exploitation by the neighbouring Bantu people. Likewise Bambuti Pygmies were driven out of the Maiko National Park as result of joint Government and WWF activities.

    Similarly in Cental Africa, the Dzangha-Sangha Project which has been directed by WWF since 1988, has resulted in the destruction of the livelihood and loss of dignity of the Baka Pygmies in this area and in the loss of their ancestral homeland.

    In Rwanda the Batwa Pygmies were driven out of the Nyungwe Natural Forest in 1994 to make way for a Nature Conservation Site. WWF was involved in the creation of this area and as a result the Batwa of Rwanda have lost their ancestral land and last refuge.

    In Kenya the Tsavo East National Park has been established and is managed with the help of WWF, on the Sanye ancestral land. The Sanye have been severely prosecuted as poachers on their own land. As a result the Sanye peoples have been virtually destroyed as a society of hunters and gatherers.

    In Namibia the Hai'om Bushmen have been driven out of their ancestral land, the Etosha Pan, which WWF is involved in securing as a conservation area!

    In consultation with WWF the Government of Botswana declared, at the Xane kotla meeting in February 1996, that the 3000 last remaining Bushmen, in broadly traditional hunting and gathering lifestyles, have to leave their ancestral land and their traditional lives. The reason being that their ancestral land is now proposed as a new game reserve.

    In South Africa the 40 last remaining Bushmen have been chased out of their ancestral land which is now largely used as the Kalahari Gemsbock National Park. WWF has been and still is involved. Furthermore they continue to discount the land claims of the evacuated Bushmen.

    In India the Gujjar nomads in Uttar Pradesh are victims of a Nature Conservation Project, where WWF is directly involved. Also the last few aborigine peoples, belonging to the Negrito race, have been victimised by National Park projects in the Nilgiri mountains where WWF was and still is active.

    In the Philippines the Haribon Foundation acts with WWF as a partner and receives considerable financial support from them. In 1988 the Haribon Foundation tried to chase the Batak, aborigines of Palawan island, out of their forested ancestral land all around Mount Puyos (Cleopatra's Needle) to make space for an extension to the Mount Saint Paul's National Park. The Batak were supposed to be resettled on a denuded area to help in tree plantations, commonly termed as reforestation projects. FPCN (see below) was able to put a stop to that plan, but the Haribon Foundation continued, using WWF money, to 'develop' the Batak. The money was raised mainly in the "debt-for-nature swap" business.

    This resulted in a more or less forced settlement of the formerly free moving Batak and with this an almost complete loss of their culture and traditions. IUCN (International Union for the Conservation of Nature – the umbrella organisation of which WWF is a part) is presently carrying out a study on the impact of the Batak on the remaining natural forest, regardless of the fact that thousands of Filipinos intruded on the Batak's ancestral land, making meaningful analysis unfeasible.

    PictureIn Malaysia the Mannee, the very last aborigines still holding on to their traditional lifestyle, have lost access to half of their ancestral ground in the Banthat range due to a National Park project on Mannee tribal land, for which WWF is largely responsible. The remaining land is open to loggers, farmers and settlers.

    WWF planned to evacuate the Papuan people from the area of the Lorentz National Park in Indonesian-occupied West Papua. WWF is in partnership with the Indonesian Government and the destructive American intruders holding the Freeport mine and is responsible for the killing of at least seven OPM (Organisation for a Free Papua) freedom fighters, who were killed during the rescue of WWF staff taken as hostages last year. Still though, WWF does not recognize OPM interests and land claims.

    There are many more cases of small peoples victimised by joint Governmental and WWF 'nature conservation' activities and policy. As with most other conservation programs, this is a front for corporate expansion and destruction. These peoples have very few friends on Earth. Friends of Peoples Close to Nature, a non-hierarchical network, exists to rectify this situation, both by direct action and by political lobbying. If the process of civilisation and globalisation is allowed to wipe out the last remaining non-western cultures, we will be left with a human monoculture. If biodiversity is important, then human diversity is too. We must make alliances with and give support to these last bastions of hope for the future of humanity.

    Whilst we in the 'first' world are trying to get our land back, these people still have it. They live as they have always done. As they die, our dreams die with them. Without them, the future of humanity is sealed in its present course, all alternative futures will be gone and the aberration of ten thousand years ago in Mesopotamia (see agriculture article in this issue) will have parasitised the whole planet. We need people to get involved. Not to be told what to do, or to buy t-shirts, but to actively join in the resistance of wild peoples around the world by attacking the heart of the problem right here in the 'rich' world. There can be no social justice within a culture that commits genocide on its neighbours.

    Some of these peoples now number only a few hundred, in a couple of years they will be gone for ever, and part of our own humanity will be gone with them – unless we act decisively now. For more information and to find out what you can do to help, send an SAE to FPCN England & International Office, 50 Hillside Crescent, Whittle-le-Woods, Chorley, Lancashire, PR6 7LT, ENGLAND, Tel/Fax: +44-(0), 1257-230218

  • Incremental change is unavoidable….because the behaviour of humans as a species is only capable of changing with unbelievably small increments….I write this in 2018…..clearly nothing he said is being implemented…..as a species humans have learned nothing

  • How to lose a decade…

  • Good presentation. But in Russia, ten years after this talk, not a single solar-powered roof, and I saw only one wind turbine in my life here. What can you do about this?

  • I'm glad he did not hurt himself!

  • Words …words… like a priest…giving his religious believe. … no proof

  • 5.12 whoops, we missed the turn!

  • Deberían poner los subtitulos en español

  • This was at 2010. We are at 2019. Where are we? Worst?

  • Would it kill y'all to get someone without a damn accent so I can understand what they are saying when I put it on 1.5x speed so I don't fall asleep.

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